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		<title>By: mez</title>
		<link>http://arsvirtuafoundation.org/research/2009/07/24/_social-tesseracting_-part-3/comment-page-1/#comment-155</link>
		<dc:creator>mez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 05:55:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[off-the-cuff response] the act of tweeting seems performative, in that it&#039;s essentially offering up a persona-mediated segment of urself 2 a user base that can:

1. act as an audience/lurker [those that passively absorb tweets/input with no actuated responses 4thcoming ]

...or:

2. actively [socially] respond thru the creation of &quot;multilogues&quot; through replies, retweets etc...+ its an aspect of a new dimension, an example of social tesseracting....

re: invagination/prim hollowness, it wasn&#039;t entirely wot i was getting at - was more angling 2wards the idea that these types of synthetically mediated/governed social interactions aggregationally create a new dimension, 1 not able to be explained or parsed through the current theoretical/known/accepted structures [think: Point-Line-Plane Postuate http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjsgoXvnStY]. its almost like a sense + dimensionality merge [+ that&#039;s not to say ur invagination idea isn&#039;t a great way to conceptualise such spaces. my interpretation is far from absolute, it&#039;s just 1 way of conceptualising it?]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[off-the-cuff response] the act of tweeting seems performative, in that it&#8217;s essentially offering up a persona-mediated segment of urself 2 a user base that can:</p>
<p>1. act as an audience/lurker [those that passively absorb tweets/input with no actuated responses 4thcoming ]</p>
<p>&#8230;or:</p>
<p>2. actively [socially] respond thru the creation of &#8220;multilogues&#8221; through replies, retweets etc&#8230;+ its an aspect of a new dimension, an example of social tesseracting&#8230;.</p>
<p>re: invagination/prim hollowness, it wasn&#8217;t entirely wot i was getting at &#8211; was more angling 2wards the idea that these types of synthetically mediated/governed social interactions aggregationally create a new dimension, 1 not able to be explained or parsed through the current theoretical/known/accepted structures [think: Point-Line-Plane Postuate <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjsgoXvnStY" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjsgoXvnStY</a>. its almost like a sense + dimensionality merge [+ that's not to say ur invagination idea isn't a great way to conceptualise such spaces. my interpretation is far from absolute, it's just 1 way of conceptualising it?]</p>
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		<title>By: azdel slade</title>
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		<dc:creator>azdel slade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 22:56:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was thinking of this the other day.

is tweeting a space between private thought and the social? or is it always performative? or is it a new dimension, a new space?

is that what you meant by tesseracting, the unfolding of two spaces into a new space with something in between? like hollowing out a prim? an &quot;invagination&quot;?

or do you mean more a multiplication of spaces and the feedback and resonances between them?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was thinking of this the other day.</p>
<p>is tweeting a space between private thought and the social? or is it always performative? or is it a new dimension, a new space?</p>
<p>is that what you meant by tesseracting, the unfolding of two spaces into a new space with something in between? like hollowing out a prim? an &#8220;invagination&#8221;?</p>
<p>or do you mean more a multiplication of spaces and the feedback and resonances between them?</p>
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		<title>By: McKenzie Wark</title>
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		<dc:creator>McKenzie Wark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2009 13:19:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its a terrific text. If it were still permissible to speak of avant garde tendencies, then without doubt you would have identified them here. (I just noticed that the spell checker flagged avant garde as non-words, so there ya go).

Much as i enjoy the phenomena described here, i agree with Alan that it can&#039;t be extended to a scientific method. But then science has already largely undergone the transformation that digital media enables. Culture is playing catch up.

I would extend the point to say that there might be other social-communicative formations that can&#039;t be flattened out in this way. What might be interesting is to think about a more plural universe of social-communicative formations.

For example, these phenomena are mostly about the interaction of human and non-human actors in the present tense (in &#039;realtime&#039;). But what about the past? What about interactions with the dead? (And with the machinic supports of the dead?) Which for example is what the humanities is, or is in part.)

I still think this is a world where reading/writing are only partly well served. They become functional. The language here is about data, not the poetics of communication. The poetics arises out of the froth of data. But is language only data? Could it be built the other way around?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its a terrific text. If it were still permissible to speak of avant garde tendencies, then without doubt you would have identified them here. (I just noticed that the spell checker flagged avant garde as non-words, so there ya go).</p>
<p>Much as i enjoy the phenomena described here, i agree with Alan that it can&#8217;t be extended to a scientific method. But then science has already largely undergone the transformation that digital media enables. Culture is playing catch up.</p>
<p>I would extend the point to say that there might be other social-communicative formations that can&#8217;t be flattened out in this way. What might be interesting is to think about a more plural universe of social-communicative formations.</p>
<p>For example, these phenomena are mostly about the interaction of human and non-human actors in the present tense (in &#8216;realtime&#8217;). But what about the past? What about interactions with the dead? (And with the machinic supports of the dead?) Which for example is what the humanities is, or is in part.)</p>
<p>I still think this is a world where reading/writing are only partly well served. They become functional. The language here is about data, not the poetics of communication. The poetics arises out of the froth of data. But is language only data? Could it be built the other way around?</p>
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		<title>By: Networked_Performance &#8212; _Social Tesseracting_: Part 3</title>
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		<dc:creator>Networked_Performance &#8212; _Social Tesseracting_: Part 3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 21:10:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] and Anonymous will be discussed in upcoming augmentology entries.[Posted by Mez on _Augmentology 1[L]0[L]1_]    Jul 28, 15:05 Trackback [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Gabriel Shalom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gabriel Shalom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 11:18:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glossary sounds good to me :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glossary sounds good to me <img src='http://arsvirtuafoundation.org/research/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: mez</title>
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		<dc:creator>mez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 04:28:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Text-deep in deadlines so an ultra quick reply: agreed re: Augmentology Glossary. Who&#039;s in 2 help?;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Text-deep in deadlines so an ultra quick reply: agreed re: Augmentology Glossary. Who&#8217;s in 2 help?;)</p>
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		<title>By: Greg J. Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg J. Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 04:21:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To zoom in on a specific point: &quot;Social tesseracts assist in addressing the somewhat restrictive walled garden approach to software and platform production [think: the frustration levels encountered whilst experiencing the locked door syndrome]&quot;

This is a very apt comparison as it not only extends the architectural metaphor from the silo through the deadbolt but it foregrounds participation in social networks as gaming. I think a great example of a widely deployed example of locked door syndrome is Facebook Connect, sure the system integrates with OpenID and allows content across the web to &quot;port into&quot; Facebook (and users to &quot;port into&quot; it), but these flows are on the terms of the developers of the Facebook platform.

Anyways, like Azdel said, there is a lot going on here and I&#039;m going to have to spend some time with this text to get my bearing. I think Augmentology needs a glossary. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To zoom in on a specific point: &#8220;Social tesseracts assist in addressing the somewhat restrictive walled garden approach to software and platform production [think: the frustration levels encountered whilst experiencing the locked door syndrome]&#8221;</p>
<p>This is a very apt comparison as it not only extends the architectural metaphor from the silo through the deadbolt but it foregrounds participation in social networks as gaming. I think a great example of a widely deployed example of locked door syndrome is Facebook Connect, sure the system integrates with OpenID and allows content across the web to &#8220;port into&#8221; Facebook (and users to &#8220;port into&#8221; it), but these flows are on the terms of the developers of the Facebook platform.</p>
<p>Anyways, like Azdel said, there is a lot going on here and I&#8217;m going to have to spend some time with this text to get my bearing. I think Augmentology needs a glossary. <img src='http://arsvirtuafoundation.org/research/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Alan Sondheim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan Sondheim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 18:46:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Terrific; I do wonder tho about its impact on scientific method, which proceeds necessarily by stricture and experimentation. Your example is on learning - for a discussion of methodology look at Smolin&#039;s What&#039;s Wrong with Physics (think that&#039;s the title). Anyway there&#039;s an interesting dialectic among individual, mashup, stricture and experimentation here - I keep remembering David Finkelstein&#039;s differentiation between pure math and physics/applied math - the former he characterized as masturbation, the latter fucking, since you don&#039;t always get what you want (and seems to me, re: science, but if you try, you might find, you get what you need) - Alan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Terrific; I do wonder tho about its impact on scientific method, which proceeds necessarily by stricture and experimentation. Your example is on learning &#8211; for a discussion of methodology look at Smolin&#8217;s What&#8217;s Wrong with Physics (think that&#8217;s the title). Anyway there&#8217;s an interesting dialectic among individual, mashup, stricture and experimentation here &#8211; I keep remembering David Finkelstein&#8217;s differentiation between pure math and physics/applied math &#8211; the former he characterized as masturbation, the latter fucking, since you don&#8217;t always get what you want (and seems to me, re: science, but if you try, you might find, you get what you need) &#8211; Alan</p>
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		<title>By: azdel slade</title>
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		<dc:creator>azdel slade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 03:18:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wow, there is so much here that it&#039;s going to require a few reads and any complete response would be longer than the article! but there are a few questions i have, or observations...

i think its really interesting how troll play is really t[rol(e)]l play, and that it deals with ethical systems as elements in a role play that can be used to create affective reponses. but, and maybe this is cuz of the &quot;queer relational&quot; discussion on empyre i&#039;ve been knee deep in all month, the oscillation of normative/reactive is really twisted in something like 4chan or ED, where they are performing a kind of supermacho, anti-feminist, even racist character, to evoke a laugh, when i think that they probably see themselves as rebelling against an accepted widespread level of respect for women. it reminds me of the kathy sierra situation [ http://webweaversworld.blogspot.com/2007/04/kathy-sierra-misogyny-on-web-and.html ]. I wonder if it might be something like ethical tesseracting, or some other topology like feedback loops or strange loops or some other npirl formation, if we can imagine the loops of interaction between the assumed field in which these technologies develop.

what are the underlying driving forces in some of the examples here, a drive for omnipotence (AR), power (WE OWN THIS) or endless entertainment? i&#039;m still processing it and will have to write more later...

and hooray for freeform identities! i think this kind of thinking you&#039;re doing just shows how far, far obsolete a lot of notions of the social, the political and the subject are and how deep and intricate the unfolding interactions are!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow, there is so much here that it&#8217;s going to require a few reads and any complete response would be longer than the article! but there are a few questions i have, or observations&#8230;</p>
<p>i think its really interesting how troll play is really t[rol(e)]l play, and that it deals with ethical systems as elements in a role play that can be used to create affective reponses. but, and maybe this is cuz of the &#8220;queer relational&#8221; discussion on empyre i&#8217;ve been knee deep in all month, the oscillation of normative/reactive is really twisted in something like 4chan or ED, where they are performing a kind of supermacho, anti-feminist, even racist character, to evoke a laugh, when i think that they probably see themselves as rebelling against an accepted widespread level of respect for women. it reminds me of the kathy sierra situation [ <a href="http://webweaversworld.blogspot.com/2007/04/kathy-sierra-misogyny-on-web-and.html" rel="nofollow">http://webweaversworld.blogspot.com/2007/04/kathy-sierra-misogyny-on-web-and.html</a> ]. I wonder if it might be something like ethical tesseracting, or some other topology like feedback loops or strange loops or some other npirl formation, if we can imagine the loops of interaction between the assumed field in which these technologies develop.</p>
<p>what are the underlying driving forces in some of the examples here, a drive for omnipotence (AR), power (WE OWN THIS) or endless entertainment? i&#8217;m still processing it and will have to write more later&#8230;</p>
<p>and hooray for freeform identities! i think this kind of thinking you&#8217;re doing just shows how far, far obsolete a lot of notions of the social, the political and the subject are and how deep and intricate the unfolding interactions are!</p>
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